To my dear Malayalee family and friends who voted for Donald Trump
In the days since Donald
Trump was elected as our country’s 45th president I’ve watched more
news than I ever have, read countless articles from both sides of the spectrum,
and patiently listened to my students, friends, and yes even my brown and immigrant family members who voted for Donald Trump. I have tried
VERY hard to understand their view points and reasons for wanting a
President that has no government experience, who proudly admits that he doesn’t
pay taxes, who has blatantly lied to us several times, who is anti-immigrant and has openly supported and
promoted racism, sexism, xenophobia, ableism, and even went so low as
disrespecting a gold star family.
I get it, not everyone
loved Hillary- but what I absolutely don’t get is how many of my own beloved family
members and many people in my Malayalee community could support Trump. We are a Christian South Indian immigrant
community that is largely defined by our strong religious beliefs,
collectivism, and hard work that has resulted in economic stability and success.
I am very proud to be a Malayalee American but I am still quite puzzled on how so many
people who I share the same ethnic background and skin tone with can continue
to support Donald Trump. Has our religion and potential wealth allowed us to
forget that we are people of color and immigrants?
I understand how Trump’s anti-
abortion stance gives us pro-lifer's hope and makes him appealing. After all, as Christians we have been taught to believe
that all abortion regardless of context is wrong. We were listening when Trump
claimed that “you can take the baby
and rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month on the final day.” If you
are a medical professional, then you know how ridiculous this fear mongering statement
is. But if not, read this article to be informed of the facts. Late term abortions are extremely rare and only happen in the
case of a true emergency. The truth is the rate of abortion has consistently been dropping over the last decade and it currently is lower than it ever has
been in this country.
I’m assuming that many of us felt that a vote for Trump was a vote that
supported our Christian beliefs, values, and ideologies. Does Trump really embody
the values and beliefs that we as Christians have learned to be important? Even the Pope has warned us of the scary parallels between Trump and Hitler.
If the new Pope is too radical or political for you, watch this short video of
Fr. James Martin a well respected Catholic priest and author who reminds us that Pope John Paul
II wrote dozens of times about
refugees and migrants and argued that it was necessary to guard against the
rise of new forms of racism or xenophobic behavior. The leaders of our own
faith have spoken out against the exact behavior that Trump has displayed. If
you think that Trump is going to help our world be a Christian society which
encourages Americans to “do onto others as you would have them do to you" then I think you need to think again.
In addition to being devout Christians, I am proud that many of us have
worked our tails off to achieve the American Dream. We as Asian Indian
Americans are among the most highly educated ethnic group in the U.S. We also
work hard to support our families not only here but back home in Kerala. This
economic success was earned through perseverance, hard work, and sacrifices,
not through inheritance. So, I understand that we want to keep our pockets deep
and our bank accounts full and that a Republican candidate such as Trump will
help us do so. I know that many of us
are small business owners (my father included) and that Trump will slash taxes
making it easier to for our businesses to survive. Most of us will economically
benefit from a Trump Presidency but what about the people in our community that
are not as well off as we are, the ones that are still trying to figure out how
to make it in this country?
What about the undocumented Malayalees that are working here, living across the world from their own families and working their butts off to make low wages so they can support their loved ones back home? With Trump’s stance on undocumented immigrants those people in our community will not be able to stay here and this will ultimately work to increase poverty in Kerala. What about our children who attend public school? Trump wants our children who are educated in public schools to be under the power of the grossly unqualified Besty DeVos who has already destroyed the public education system in Michigan . She gave tax cuts for the wealthy at the expense of public schools, allowed for vouchers that took taxpayer funds from public schools to private schools, and allowed for profit charter school corporations to operate with absolutely no accountability all while being funded by the taxpayers of Michigan. The education and success of our children is something that all of us hold to the highest importance. School funding directly relates to the quality of our children’s education and also increased academic achievement and success. Are we prepared to see the quality of our children’s education plummet? What about those of who rely on ObamaCare for health insurance? If this is repealed it could mean that 18 million people will lose their health insurance and 43,000 will die yearly. What will happen to our own grandparents, parents, and children that rely on Obamacare?
What about the undocumented Malayalees that are working here, living across the world from their own families and working their butts off to make low wages so they can support their loved ones back home? With Trump’s stance on undocumented immigrants those people in our community will not be able to stay here and this will ultimately work to increase poverty in Kerala. What about our children who attend public school? Trump wants our children who are educated in public schools to be under the power of the grossly unqualified Besty DeVos who has already destroyed the public education system in Michigan . She gave tax cuts for the wealthy at the expense of public schools, allowed for vouchers that took taxpayer funds from public schools to private schools, and allowed for profit charter school corporations to operate with absolutely no accountability all while being funded by the taxpayers of Michigan. The education and success of our children is something that all of us hold to the highest importance. School funding directly relates to the quality of our children’s education and also increased academic achievement and success. Are we prepared to see the quality of our children’s education plummet? What about those of who rely on ObamaCare for health insurance? If this is repealed it could mean that 18 million people will lose their health insurance and 43,000 will die yearly. What will happen to our own grandparents, parents, and children that rely on Obamacare?
Those of us who are American citizens and come from well to do families may not relate
to or care about any of above issues but as Malayalees, we all have a few things
in common. We are all people of color and we are all immigrants. We may not all have had personal encounters with racism but that doesn't mean that we won't be subjected to them in our future. We have become a
more tolerant America when compared to days of my childhood when I was called “Cindu
the Hindu” and bullied for being Indian. At a young age, I developed a sense of
shame about my Indian-ness and it took many years to unlearn that shame. Things
are different now- there are many more brown faces in this country compared to
when I was growing up which has resulted in a more widespread acceptance of
difference. But don’t find too much comfort
in knowing that we are a more diverse and tolerant society than we were forty
years ago- in today’s America there is now an acceptance of what Aziz Ansari refers
to as a “Casual White Supremacy." Our Christian identity or economic
success will not protect us from racism. Trump himself has said
and done many racist things over the past several years.
His campaign was one that was built on bigotry and proved to be highly divisive
for this country. His campaign has been said to reinvigorate the dying white supremacist movement in this country. In case you didn’t know, white supremacy is the belief that White people are superior to those of all other races. Now please don't assume that all White people think that they are superior to us or that all White people who voted for Trump in this country are racist- because that is just not true. However, In Trump's America people seem to feel more confident and
unapologetic about being outwardly racist. As brown people, this impacts all of
us!
Did you know that in the month
following election day, there were 1,094 reported bias related hate crimes? 316 of these incidents were
anti-immigrant and 112 of the incidents were anti-Muslim. We are all subject to
discrimination and even hate crimes just due to the color of our skin. We may
be Christian immigrants, but many bigots don’t know the difference between what
a Muslim and Christian person look like and probably don’t care. Islamophobia
(the fear of Muslims) is real and rampant in this country and even people who
are perceived to be Muslim are at risk. As it is our world is an unsafe place.
Can you imagine a society in which racism is normalized? Shouldn’t we feel safe to walk around in our
own neighborhoods and cities? Speaking of walking, just yesterday an Indian
woman (who is a citizen and lived here for over 30 years) who was taking a walk
was detained and had her immigration status questioned in Maryland.
Trump’s most recent executive order calls for ban of citizens from 7 Muslim majority countries to enter the U.S. and
the executive order makes it clear those seven countries are just a starting point for a likely broader ban. If India is
included in this ban, we will all experience the consequences that our Muslim
brothers and sisters are beginning to experience. Not all of us are going to
benefit from Trump’s America and I think it is time that we stop thinking with our
wallets and start thinking with our hearts.
We came to this country,
the land of opportunity, to live out the American Dream and we are privileged
that we have been able to do so without experiencing some of the hardships other
immigrant communities have endured. Not only were we able to come here to
receive education and enjoy financial gain, but we able to bring our siblings
and their families here to do the same.
We have the privilege of being Christian, the majority religion in this
country. Our religious privilege allows our minority identities to be perceived
as more normative and less “foreign” when compared to that of our Indian Muslim
and Hindu brothers and sister. We did not experience wide spread national prejudice
and persecution like Japanese Americans did when they were sent to internment camps.
Our people were not subject to the legalized racial discrimination that Chinese
people experienced during the Chinese Exclusion Act which prohibited the
immigration of Chinese people into the U.S. and denied Chinese people
naturalization for 61 years. We as a community have not experienced the long
standing history of injustices and inequities of the African American racial
group who were brought to this country to work as slaves. America has only
given us opportunities and freedoms rather than stripping us of them unlike
what this country has done to the Native American people. If it weren’t for the
struggles of the immigrant and racial groups before us, we wouldn’t have
experienced the tolerance and acceptance that most of us did when we came to
this country. If it wasn’t for Civil Rights leaders like Martin Luther King Jr.
and the sacrifices of the countless people who worked for racial justice, we wouldn’t
have had the opportunities and privileges we have enjoyed in this country and our
experience as a community in this country would have had an entirely different
story.
As a community, it is
time to acknowledge the struggles of the immigrants and people of color who
came to this country before us who helped pave the path for our success. It’s
time to work in solidarity with other identity groups that are being targeted
and attacked just for being a specific race, ethnicity, or religion. Let’s not
sit around and turn a blind eye to the injustices happening now in Trump’s America.
Let’s burst the bubble that we as a
community tend to live in and get to know our Black, Muslim, Hindu, Latino, Asian,
Native American, LGBTQ, Disabled, Veteran, and White neighbors. Let’s speak out
and work together as a community to ensure that our new home, The United States
of America, is a place where ALL Americans can enjoy the opportunities, freedoms,
and success that we have always had in this great country.
Hmmm..u r talking to a community of ppl who pretend to care about each other but their own self interests, most hypocritical ppl in the world and u know im telling the truth, we just smile at other immigrants while quietly been prejudice. All we care is like u said bank accts and our safety, most of them dont know the sacrifices made by the blacks and other immigrants to mk malayalees lives here far better, but one of these days their coccoon they living is gonna get broke wide open by these crazy ideologies, then only will they realize it. Now we think just cause we r from india or have a non muslim name and some money, we r above the problems thats cause malayees r ignorant, thet still sit there living between their work and church and serials and malayalee associations, too ignorant to realize we r all affected and to stand up for wat is right.
ReplyDeleteThis line tho "they still sit there living between their work and church and serials and malayalee associations, too ignorant to realize we r all affected and to stand up for wat is right." lololol true story, bro!
DeleteRead it. The tone of the blog would suggest that most Malayalees voted for Trump due to their ignorance and Cindu is trying to explain why they are so wrong. Many malayalees supported Trump for many other reasons which are not addressed in this blog. For example--
Delete- Keystone pipeline. The EPA and State Department had previously cleared that project but Obama and Hillary succumbed to the liberal elites while throwing blue collar concerns under the bus. Many of us like America to be energy independent. We are also for clean energy.
- A feeling that America is taken advantage in trade negotiations due to the ineptitude of previous governments.
- A desire to see that America regains her industrial might. If Germany with higher wages and worker protections can still remain as an industrial powerhouse, why not America?
- A willingness shown by Trump to curtail the "carried interest" loophole. Obama could have very well achieved it during the early years of his first term when the Democrats had both houses but didn't do it not to antogonize his donors.
- A determination shown by Trump to take on the pharmaceutical companies to bring down prescription medicine prices.
- His wish to normalize relationship with Russia disregarding the protestations of the establishment which is still stuck in Cold War attitude.
- many more to list...
like this - for or against Trump.
Hi Shomy,
DeleteYes, I am talking to my Malayalee Community which i love and respect. There is def some truth to what you expressed about our community, but there is also a lot of great attributes that we have as a community. My hope is that some of them will listen and realize that we must start caring about what is happening in this country.
Thanks for your comment! Take Care.
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ReplyDeleteBeautifully conveyed, Cindu! You've stated matters as factually as facts can be.
DeleteThank you, Cyril. I appreciate your comment.
DeleteTC Cindu,s message is really pertinent. But it is useless to speak to a community that filled with prejudices and blind believes and zero logical thinking. They swallow the preaching from the purely blind faith based preachers, who themselves do not believe what they preach. Religions are the most dangerous evils in the modern world that create divisions among people.
ReplyDeleteI think it is worth a try to speak up about the things that matter. Even if a few people begin to shift their framework then it is worth it.
DeleteThanks for your comment.
There are thousands of skilled legal immigrants waiting [aka H1 visa ppl] in line for their green cards.. they are in this country for long time and could be thrown out any time.. I didn't see any posts from this author on these.. if you are unaware of the issues of legal immigrants, please look around.
ReplyDeleteHello,
DeleteI'm very aware of these issues. I didn't have time or space to include every example and chose to give one example of how people in our own community could be impacted by Trump's immigrant stance.
I pray that these people receive their green cards. It will be heartbreaking if not.
Thanks for your comment.
Very relevant and timely essay for our community that is tunnel visioned as well smug. Hope this shakes them up from their slumber
ReplyDeleteThank you for reading, Stephen.
DeleteYou are spiritually blinded in your mind to come out with such post. Go read your Bible properly. It's God who appoints kings andit's He who disposes kings, who are you to come against it.
DeleteWhile I agree many elders in the community just JUMP on the Trump train thinking about abortion and that is rather ignorant, this is not to say there is not a logical argument to be made for Trump. If you are having a hard time understanding or accepting that, you need to either educate yourself more on these issues or not be so narrow minded. While he's not as eloquent or charming as Obama or many other politicians, you should see policies for what they are. Not to mention, at least from my experiences, A LOT more Malayalee’s (including my parents) than usual DID NOT vote for Trump. While they were more keen on jumping to the republican train for abortions previously, I feel like a smaller percentage of them did that this time around ( still a significant percentage did vote for trump) but you are still going to ignorantly talk like this and chastise the others who didn’t like EVERYONE has to agree with you? THAT is bigotry.
ReplyDeleteTrump being "anti immigrant" is just an absolutely false narrative and a product of liberal hysteria. He is anti ILLEGAL immigrant and also CAUTIOUS of immigration from unstable middle eastern countries where Radical Islamic terrorism is rampant. Keep in mind this ban as proposed for 3 months. AT LEAST he wants to aggressively defeat ISIS, one of the reasons Christians were the most PERSECUTED group around the world last year. Putin was actually seeking to help these Christians, these Christians were not persecuted against Assad, and your golden boy Obama opposed both these groups so you wonder which side he was on. Your concern for an Indian ban is absolutely irrational, unless you’re worried some guys from Thodupuzha or Pathanamthitta are going to be committing terror acts in Paris, Germany, Brussels, Turkey, Lebanon etc in which case WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED OURSELVES… Actually, Trump has personally reached out to the Indian voter base and addressed us in ways NO OTHER US candidate running for president ever has. And you wonder why some of our parents may have leaned towards him.
As for the so called hate crimes, did you happen to see how many of them were fake fake fake? Also that statistic probably covers all hate crimes in general, I’m sure that included one like the beating of the poor disabled boy by loving Clinton supporters, the beating of a man in the middle of an intersection, various woman attacked for wearing trump hats. After all the fake stories in the hate crime statistic, I’m sure many of the rest of them were all the Nazi swastikas drawn in every town. You really think Trump supporters did that? Do you really think Trump supporters did any of the crimes? Trump supporters are the ones happy with the results and its quite evident who all is up in arms and going around vandalizing property by now. News flash: Trump has said nothing about Nazis or swastika, or the National Socialist German Workers Party Hitler was a part of. In fact trump ran a campaign of nationalism and patriotism, the Nazis were one of our biggest enemies of all time, so with that in mind you really think any of the swastikas were from trump supporters? My educated guess is that a majority of them were drawn by uneducated upset liberals who know nothing about world history that did them as they are the ones that irrationally associated Trump as Hitler in the first place.
And don’t get me wrong my point of this is not to say Trump supporters are perfect, its to illustrate your notion that Trump supporters are bad and the other side is blameless is grossly false. And this is not to say there isn’t racism, of course there will be those few ignorant people. But this is a minority. Obama won resounding victories for both popular and electoral vote2 terms, a majority of America is not racist. More latinos voted trump than Romney. Even some muslims voted trump. You should not have such a Huff post inspired view of your Malayalee families political views when more latinos (who should be more upset with trump) voted for trump than Romney. Your bout on the KKK. Actually Trump did denounce the KKKs endorsement, and Hillary received a nice some of money from them and there were no qualms about what she did with that money
DeleteBy the way don’t worry about Devos, she has been advocating states rights and letting your own state governments decide what’s best for itself, the way our government was intended to run, so if you have issues with your state governments go out and VOTE! The department of education has only been around since 79, ironically our education system and grades have only fallen behind other countries in the world since then, so don’t you worry about a weak Department of Education.
With regards to your parents wanting more cash. Of course most business owners voted trump, you vote for your own interests. It may be easy to paint this as greedy and selfish, but take an economics class, pro business policies can benefit EVERYONE. The middle class has shrunk the income disparity only GREW during the Obama administration.
Trump definitely has his own faults. He might be one of the most unorthodox candidates we have ever elected as president to say the least, but when your confused as to why he won or why he was supported don’t forget that Hillary was no Mother Theresa. I could write a rant just as long as yours throwing shade at Clinton and her faults. The people of this country have been hesitant towards some of its greatest leaders of all time, and welcomed with wide arms some of its worst, so before jumping to any conclusions or making pure speculations, lets wait and see.
Dear Anonymous
DeleteI fully understand your support of Donald Trump
While you appear to vociferously and ardently support Mr Trump and equally vociferously disagree with Ms Cindu on every issue you obviously do not convince yourself that you are saying the right thing. Otherwise why do you have to remain anonymous? And this is the most unsettling thing about Trump and his followers. Under the pretext of "Making America great again" he has his bigotry and blatantly anti human being campaign. Ironically it is the likes of Me Trump and by that I mean cut throat business men who have made this country reduce in its greatness. I cannot condone a President of a nation who is flagrantly and shamelessly breaking laws and using the office to make himself and his buddies and cronies rich. He has not paid his taxes in decades and wants to kick the Immigrants out - they who have been the very fabric of this Nation which otherwise consists of some gun toting white people who used slave labor to sustain themselves. Rome was not built in a day. So before you go around blaming the previous government take actions and see what you can do to make the life of fellow human beings better. At least Obama paid his taxes and did not add his entire family on the taxpayers burden. And yes He also did not go through is entire Presidency blaming the Bush Administration. Grow up Anonymous Trump. If you plan to make this country great again start looking forward ,losers
Actually, Im anonymous cus fools like you don't understand this stuff and take it personally.
DeleteI had multiple sources I shared that back my argument, but I think its being deleted.
I've only deleted one comment out of all the comments and it wasn't yours. Just an FYI
DeleteHello and thanks for your many comments. If you will note I addressed MY malayalee friends and family who voted for Trump. The title in itself communicates that I am not speaking to ALL Malayalees and I did not say that all malayalees voted for trump, I said many of us did. I also know many who did not vote for him.
ReplyDeleteYou write very passionately and I encourage you to write your own blog post. However, please do that on your own blog. Thanks.
Warm Regards,
Cindu
Hi Cindu, thank you. You've done an excellent job. Never in my wildest dreams I imagined this 'lowest form of human being' will become our President. I am more worried as ever what he is capable of by using his position to give people like you and me a 'hell' of a life. I am really surprised why many of our people do not realize this. A small peek about his past will tell you what he is capable of. Also, what we can expect from him in the WH. Let us all hope and pray he will never become another 'Hitler'. Thanks again! This is Tomy Vattamakal.
ReplyDeleteHi Tomy,
DeleteThanks for your kind comments and for taking the time to read.
Warm Regards,
Cindu
#WokeChechy
ReplyDeleteIn response to the article “to my dear Malayalee family and friends who voted for Donald Trump”
ReplyDeleteIn order to respond, I will go paragraph by paragraph (identifying each paragraph as para 1, para 2, para 3…)
Para 1: You may have watched news “since Donald Trump was elected,” but I have been watching news avidly for many years before the election. You give me a name of a reporter on CNN or FOX or ABC, or the name of the newspaper (be it NYT, Washington Post, WSJ…) and I will tell you even before they write an article which side they will be leaning on and what their conclusion is going to be. I’ve watched Indian election of Modi, and the rise of Aam Admi party with equal interest, even staying awake to watch results overnight. All this to say, I have seen Bernie, Hillary and Trump from day one of their election cycle, and Trump’s win was the most shocking result that progressive/liberal media would have ever imagined (as they did everything they could to work against it from happening). So, on that point, I must humbly admit that the result of Trump winning was not a shock to me, as it may have been for you. It was long time coming as middle America had been so frustrated with Obama and liberal policies, that this was inevitable.
How is one anti-immigrant when their point is to make immigration “LEGAL,” and not illegal (as a fellow Indian who had to go through due immigration process I hope you realize and respect this process even more). As for Racism- the best argument against Trump for that would be that he didn’t deny yjr support of KKK as harshly as he should have, agreed, but I have seen him work with people of all races (history shows that harshest racism has been faced by none other than the people of Israel- Jewish people. In Trump’s case, his closest aid in the White House and his son-in-law is Jared Kushner, a conservative Jew. A racist, or white supremacist would never hold a view like that. Call me ignorant, but read American History and you’ll see that even American Founding Fathers did not hold charitable views of Jewish people, but Trump is a strong supporter of Israel. I have not seen Trump describe an African American, or any non-white person as less than him just because he has a different skin tone. So, to simply paint him as “racist” is not telling the whole story.
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ReplyDeleteOn sexism, yes here I agree with you that Trump has said (even by his own admission in the tapes) of how he thought of women. The terms he used are terrible and disrespectful to all human beings. He has no excuse in that area, and he did apologize (to the extent you call it an apology) about his behavior. I do agree that Trump has had lot of past that he has to be ashamed of in this area, no doubt about it. But, as for his ill treatment of women differently just because they are women, to that I see no correlation. Look at the number of people he placed as CEO’s of his companies who were women (long before other companies started doing it), also noteworthy is his core team, including Kellyanne Conway, who was the head of his campaign (very bold move if you ask in the world of politics where men greatly outnumber women). Even his most ardent defenders in the liberal news channels were mostly women, sitting in midst of male dominated news cycle and defending Trump- very unusual if you ask me.
On Xenophbia (which dictionary defines as a fear of people from other countries). I really do not see that he is “afraid” of others in America. It goes back to the earlier issue, his emphasis is on legal immigration. Noteworthy is the fact that out of many people in his administration, he even put an Indian in charge of the FCC (Ajit Pai). Call me naïve, but a true xenophobe will not do such a thing. As for Ableism, the best pointed out example of this against Trump is his response to the handicapped reporter who covered him. On this point, I agree, although Trump kept saying he was not imitating this man, I do believe that there was a sense of anger on his part toward this person, but I do not believe it was because of his “ableism,” it was his classic angry response to anyone in the media/press who challenges him. So, I think it is more so an example of his anger toward liberal media rather than his physical limitations. As to his response to media, that is a point that requires another article of its own, to which I will not belabor now.
As for disrespecting gold star family, that is a topic used again and again by people, but that is an argument that takes the issue out of context. Basic question is does Trump respect Military personal/Veterans in general? And to that, the resounding answer is, much more so than Hillary or Bernie! Even ardent critics of Trump would admit that he is extremely enthusiastic about people in the armed services. He has donated/raised lot of money for them, worked for their cause (just ask groups like the “wounded warrior project”). It was in response to the criticism by the father of the soldier, Mr. Khan, during a speech in the Democratic Party’s Convention, that Trump responded back and it led to a war of words between them. Nowhere in the process was there a proof of Trump directly speaking against the fallen soldier himself, it was his reaction to the family, who let’s be frank, was heavily politicized in the election process, appearing constantly on liberal news outlets and speaking against Trump and his policies. I believe it is fair then to be able to respond back, as Trump usually does, to a person who is insulting him in public outlets. Again, why Trump responds the way he does is a whole different story.
I noticed that you conveniently left out in this paragraph Hillary Clinton’s ongoing, even much bigger problems, related to “lying.” Even liberal media had to admit, time and time again, that her problems with lies (be it Benghazi, or her foundation problems) has been an inexcusable issue against her. Even after their repeated attempts to steer clear of her weaknesses, media in general agree, that many women in the country did not vote for her, precisely because of her issue with telling the truth, and defending the lies. That, if you ask me, was one of the biggest reasons that she lost the election.
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ReplyDeletePara 2: As a fellow immigrant from India, who speaks both Malayalam and Hindi, and has lived both in India and in the United States equal amount of time, I do agree with the sentiments you put forth, but I disagree with the conclusions you draw from them.
I work in the medical field, and it is not outrageous when he described abortions issues. You concluded that the abortion description as described by Trump was just outrageous, and does not happen. Have you heard of doctor Kermit Gosnell, the abortion doctor who is now in prison for killing possibly thousands of babies, in and out of the womb (that is precisely why he was charged as they found bodies of new born babies who were killed after birth, and the remains kept in the refrigerator). If you have not heard of the details of this horror story, that is because liberal media will not cover the story. And that is just “one” person who finally got caught of doing this for many years. All this to say, that it is not just fear mongering, it is a sad reality that people don’t want to deal with. It has happened and sadly continues to happen now.
You said “does Trump really embody the values and beliefs that we as Christians have learned to be important?” The answer to that is resounding No! He is not the measure stick of what a true Christian should be, no doubt about it. He has had many moral problems, even ardent Christian supporters and pastors admit this. As Jesus said, “he who is without sin throw the first stone.” Many Christians, including myself, saw him as better candidate precisely because of his strong stand against Abortion, which Hillary Clinton or Bernie would not even come close to. And that is a fact that even their supporters agree to. What is more important to Christians like us was Trump decision to pick a strong born-again, anti-abortion candidate like Mike Pence as his running mate. Talk about doing what you mean! When many of us saw that, and his list of possible conservative Supreme court picks who he would nominate to the Supreme Court, we needed no more proof than that in order to vote for him over Hillary or Bernie. It came down to precisely this issue for me. As far as Pope’s parallels of Trump with Hitler, I am hard-pressed to find how Hitler like figure would ever have been the biggest supporter of Israel and have a Jewish man as his own son-in-law and as a chief advisor. Frankly, this argument just falls apart if you look at what Trump believes. Now, the closest parallel may be in his appeasement to populism, but on issues of abortion and race issues, Trump is not even close to Hitler. On the other hand, a pro-abortion individual, who gets to decide whether to let the baby live or die in the womb, now that sounds closer to the sentiment that Hitler held of deciding who should live and who should die. So, I say this with due respect to the Pope, it was just plain silly to have the Pope talking about not having walls, when he lives behind one himself. Rhetoric is easy, but in practice common-sense always wins the day. I am surprised that Pope did not criticize Hillary Clinton or Bernie for their adamant support to abortion, rather going after Trump who is against abortion. By the way, It appears that in your article you may have confused John Paul II with Pope Francis.
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ReplyDeleteIt is not that Trump will make world a more “Christian society,” rather it is that he will at least recognize/represent Christianity, which Christians in America, felt had been sidelined by American culture and previous president. It is to that effect, and issues like abortion that Christians felt motivated to vote. As a Christian who did my graduate studies in Christian thought and doctrine, it is important to keep in mind that when we vote, we do not always get a perfect Christian candidate (I doubt if that is ever possible) to vote for, so you need to vote for the person who is closest to the beliefs/teachings of the Scripture. Trump is not a perfect Christian by any stretch of imagination. Yet many pastors and Christians supported him because he identified with many of the issues, including abortion, safety and conservative values, which both Bernie and Hillary were not supporting. As Jesus says, give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and to God what belongs to God.” That does not mean government is good, but we as Christians must do our part in doing the “most good.” There is no greater good than saving life, and voting for someone who wants to save more unborn lives is a good thing! Therefore, for many Christians it was not that difficult a choice to pick Trump over the other two candidates.
Well spoken! 👍
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ReplyDeletePara 3 and 4: I appreciate that you recognize and admit that Republicans in general are good in reducing taxes and good for small businesses, and that most will be benefitted economically by his presidency. You rightly ask, what about those who are “still trying to figure out how to make it in this country?” and “the undocumented” in our society. I agree, it poses a very difficult situation for any Indian or other national who happens to be in that situation. Again, having followed him way before he became president, I have seen and heard him repeatedly say that his “main goal” is to deport undocumented “hardened criminals” who have little regard to law and order. There is no real objection to that, even liberals generally agree that it should happen. It is noteworthy that under Obama, this policy was not implemented as zealously as it may be under Trump. In regards to the peaceful undocumented immigrants, those who are working hard to support their families, I truly believe (this is my belief) that such a drastic deportation of millions of Americans will not happen, if for nothing else, due to pure logistical reasons. There should, and will be, some provisions for people in this category. We will just have to watch how this transpires.
As for the “unqualified Besty Devos” whom you mentioned in the article, all that matters to me is why am I not allowed to choose a school of my choice in my area of living? As a new immigrant in the U.S. I was given option of only one public school in my area, whereas there were better options available just couple miles away. It seemed unfair to me to have the option to go to only one public school which they dictated to me. I could go to a private school, if I could afford one! To all their talk of poverty, I am dismayed that liberals do not give choice to families of inner cities to choose a school they like for their children. And this is the same liberal group that believes in pro-choice? Families do not have a choice in this area. Again, it is important to tell both sides of the story (let’s not present facts like CNN or Fox who tell one sided stories supporting their viewpoints).
I agree Obamacare provides health insurance to many Americans, but you did not mention at all how much it is costing people to even afford it (and it is supposed to be affordable care act!). People are paying high premiums, and the system is just falling apart. Additionally, it is my understanding that Trump and the republican party has agreed to not repeal the healthcare completely, rather make it really affordable for people.
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ReplyDeletePara 5 and 6: When you must quote a stand-up comedian like Aziz Ansari, frankly, the case you are trying to make just collapses to the ground. All jokes aside, I agree that racism has been an issue, and it will always be an issue. The honest fact is that racism and discrimination, in some form or the other, will always be there, regardless of the fact who the president is. As an Indian I felt discriminated when Bush was president and when Obama was president. It is an evil in the society, which may be reduced, but will not fully go away. That has been the case from Biblical times in the history of mankind. Let us not forget the harsher forms of discrimination exists in places like India, where caste and class discrimination still happens, if not at a higher level than here and that is the fact that even Indians agree worldwide. That is the sad state of affairs. Will people be more racist? Perhaps. But will they stop being racist if Hillary or Bernie was the president? No! That is an issue related to sin and human heart, and not of politics. Indians are resilient and thrive wherever they go because they overcome these issues and through hard work face the challenges. Sadly, many times Indians are misunderstood to be a radical Islamists (again, I said radical, not all- a fact that many liberals leave out), but it has nothing to do with viewing all Indians as lower. I live in an area where Indians occupy big positions in business, medical field and education sectors. If we are to be frank, we must admit that South Asians in general have done quite well in America, and that is not just a credit to the immigrants, but also to a country that allows such opportunities. Many parts of the world, including the “Gulf countries” where Indians work, situation is much worse. Yes, we should try to make things better, but drawing a dark future does not depict the truth at hand. Dare I also remind how fellow Indians discriminate against each other (even Christians/Catholics who discriminate based on their ethnicities)? It is a widespread problem, and something everyone must try to improve, regardless of who the president is.
Trump has been clear from the beginning that he wants to “halt” (not “end” as liberal media keeps reporting) immigration from parts of the world where there is lot of terrorism, in order to protect Americans from possible terrorism. As hard as it must be for good people in those societies to deal with such a policy, the ultimate aim and goal is to protect Americans. And if you say, “well those who did commit acts of terror were born here,” again, that is not the full story, there have been people who came here and committed these crimes (like 911 bombers, wife of California shooter…) and there have been people were born here who committed terror crimes (Florida shooter, Texas shootings…). Doing all we can to protect the country from possible terrorists from hot-spot areas, is equally important as protecting America from extremists within the society. Every side has to be dealt with. Many Indians, who have seen first hand discrimination and acts of violence in India, generally support a move to protect the country.
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ReplyDeletePara 7: I agree that civil rights movement and sacrifices of many who went before us, of different background and ethnicities, have helped our cause. But it is equally important to credit the U.S. constitution and the law that is so heavily influenced by Judeo-Christian values (as no other worldview would have given a system and inalienable rights like those in America). In that sense, America is unique in her ideals. In practice these laws had been hard to implement, no doubt, and every sacrifice, regardless of color and race in that regard helps everyone in the society. It should not, therefore, be misconstrued to say that because now Trump is president all the rights will be taken back. That, to me appears to be true fear mongering and stirring the pot of anger and hatred. After all, it was the many who marched after Trump’s election, who displayed their resistance to the law by chanting “not my president.” I really believe that the great civil rights leader, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., would not be marching down the street chanting such slogans. Trump won through Electoral College, an aspect of the constitution (again, unique in its beliefs) which the founding fathers recognized they must have to prevent mobs and populists from ignoring people who do not share their beliefs. Dr. King believed did not approve of any measure that was violent in nature (as sadly has been the case with many liberals who have been unusually violent against conservatives and Trump supporters in general; educational institution included who fire the flames of such hatred).
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ReplyDeletePara 8: I agree with you that we should continue to work to make America even more better than before. We should help people of all backgrounds, regardless of race or religion. I just hope that in saying so you are not implying that people who voted for Trump are incapable of doing so. Indians, and Christian Indians in-particular, who voted for Trump have done so taking into account all the factors, and they saw a stronger and better candidate in Trump than Hillary or Bernie, that is the fact. To claim that all who voted for Trump are dumb, racists or intellectually inferior is a gross error.
This is a short, and quickly written, response to your article so please pardon the grammatical errors in here. I have more to say on why many “Christians,” voted for a person like Trump, in-spite of his many flaws; but I will save that for another day.
Blessings,
Wilson
Hi Wilson.
DeleteThank you for your many comments. As I don't have the time or interest in commenting back to every one of your points I will say that my post was addressed to MY family and friends in our community. Additionally,this post was not written to insult Trump supporters but to pose questions of what Trump's America might look like for us as immigrant and people of color. Another goal of my post was to encourage people to recognize our own religious and economic privilege and work in solidarity with other less privileged immigrant groups to stand up against human injustice. I care deeply about social and racial justice and equity for all people, not so much for politics.
And to answer your last comment- I never implied that people who voted for trump are incapable of making this country a stronger and more inclusive place- I believe the opposite which is why I wrote the article.
Your responses to my post are filled with many false assumptions and accusations- one of them in your own words was "to claim that all who voted for Trump are dumb, racists or intellectually inferior is a gross error." I never stated this or implied this in my writing. It seems as if you were doing some defensive reading and may have felt attacked personally. I'm sorry if my article made you feel attacked- but please don't falsely accuse me of saying things that weren't said- that to me is the gross error here.
One of the many beauties of this country is that we have freedom of speech and we can share our viewpoints.I want to thank you for sharing your thoughts again and ask that you attempt to agree to disagree with my thoughts. We can co-exist in this country without sharing the same views- this is something that we have to learn to do as our country continues to grow increasingly diverse.
Warm Regards,
Cindu
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ReplyDeleteThe battle of worldviews today is interesting. If you listen to the media, you'll be convinced that there's a Muslim ban in effect, when the countries with the top 3 populations of Muslims (Indonesia, India, & Pakistan) are not on the list. If I were to start, I would end up writing as much as Wilson, which I don't want to do to you. But the following is worth a listen, to help bring light to the counterperspective.
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May God's will be done & God bless!
Mallu Jay
Hi Mallu,
DeleteThanks for your comment and for posting the link- I will check it out when I get a free moment. I appreciate and often times do listen to the other perspective on a variety of issues.
Warm Regards,
Cindu
"കാള പെറ്റു എന്നു കേട്ടാൽ കയറെടുക്കാൻ ഓടും" എന്ന പഴ്ഞ്ചൊല്ല് എത്ര വാസ്തവം!
DeleteDo not waste your time commenting. The blogger is removing opposing views. Typical liberal intolerance
ReplyDeleteIf you read the above comments you will see that there are various people expressing opposing views. Your comment was deleted because it was hateful and angry. That is uncalled for and I do not welcome hostility and negativity on my blog.
DeleteBest of luck to you,
Cindu
There is more danger in brainwashing people with sweet talk than an angry voice that tells the truth.
DeleteHow childish. Typical of Trump supporters quick to be on the defensive
DeleteChildish. Oh the media is biased, they are lying. Look at me I have three wives and I have not paid taxes in decades. I live in an Ivory tower with real gold fittings and I used illegal immigrants to do all of my dirty work. I will deport Muslims but only from countries where I don't do business. But you know what the media is lying!!! Pathetic
DeleteRead the whole article including 90% of the comments.. everyone in the world, including I, thought Hillary would be elected. But then how and why did this happen, that Trump got elected to everyone's dismay? Blame Russia? There is a Super Power above every super power and super prediction... of course, for a reason. That is why we have to continue living with Hope, praying for our leaders... and miracles will continue to happen, for our good and for the glory of that Super Power. Human as I am, I foresee a new world order... Pope Francis I, Putin, Modi and Trump... after almost three years of news about gruesome slaughter and persecution of innocent and helpless people in the hands of the satanic ISIS and ISIL. My own pains are the most painful ones when I keep the concerns of others out or aside. In fact, our present worries are less worrying. Let us pray with Hope for a better world order. Trump or Hillary, they are not the real issues.. opposing blogs will continue, for in everything there are two opinions.. no blog or comment will be the right one, or the perfect one... not even mine. We need, and so let us pray for, peace and security from the womb to the tomb.
ReplyDeleteThank you for your comments, Lukose. I agree with everything you said and am also praying for our world and this country.
DeleteWarm Regards,
Cindu
Cindu, it's sad to see even our educated group of people are also mislead by the media. You are doing exactly the same. Why don't you figure things out based on the facts. Why don't you teach our people to love this country to which everyone still wants to migrate to. Don't put hatred in people by interpreting things in your wild imagination when athorities make tactical moves to improve or evaluate the the standards in place that they believe are highly important. President Trump has just started serving this country. He loves this nation and he has a so much to lose if America fails. Give him some peace of mind. Please!!!
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DeleteI'm not sure if you read the same article that I wrote because the entire post was embedded with articles from various credible sources backing up the statements and arguments I made. My post said very little about any recent tactical moves and simply questioned MY malayalee friends and family about how our future as immigrants and people of color may look like in Trump's America. I only promote love and appreciation for this great country. It's sad to me to see people like you upset to read opposing views that may not sit well with you. The media largely shapes our perceptions and beliefs and there is a grave danger if you listen to the media without a critical eye. If you have been paying attention then I'm sure that you will know that Trump is trying to silence the media for stating facts and reporting facts that don't make him look too hot. . I encourage you to listen to multiple sources that provide differing views of our reality. Based off your comments to me it's apparent that you are the one that is being mislead by the media.
Thank you for your comments and best wishes,
Cindu
Hi Cindu
DeleteAs I write this from the State of Florida I cannot help but reflect with deep sense of despair at the current huge divide in our country. I applaud you for taking a courageous stand and read your article and the many comments. The essay written by Anonymous who is obviously a Trump well wisher are truly biased and derogatory.
But that does not surprise me as many of Trump supporters as he is himself are quick to become defensive immediately bringing up the fallacies of the Obama administration and how things should have been done differently. Well I would certainly love to see how things pan out. But with his first 10 days in office other than sustain more of the hate rhetoric he has done little else to take direction to improve lives of the common people. I would caution people who live in glass houses not to throw stones. Before berating Obama Trump needs to pay his taxes which he has not done in decades. That by itself I am sure will go a long way to improve the economy and stop adding family members to his official portfolio to additionally break the tax payers back. The steps that he has taken so far are certainly not making America great again. Both Trumps supporters and antagonists are well aware of this
Live and let live, is the key take. Well written, Cindu !
ReplyDeleteWhat's in your article that gives any hope for the immigrant community?
ReplyDeleteEverything portraid from the negative side of things which has no legal place or logics behind it when you study the truth. Why worry if you are legally admitted here? America was borned to Christian immigrants, developed and advanced with immigrants and that will continue as this nation's administration always welcomed people of colors. Sometimes they have to pause the massive flow for various good reasons. My question is why do YOU want people to overreact and bring chaos to the state of peace? News media I can understand they only run on stories based fictions because they need to keep their audience. Who's going to sit and watch or read news if there's no big stories rolling out that's somehow challenging the minds of people? It's just ameature and nonsense reacting to the political news scripts. I believe God has given all of us especially in our community the ability to think rationally before coming to a conclusion. Support the good intentions of the current administration. Mr. Trump is trying his best to bring this nation back to a state where people can work and dream big again to a bright future. He is in favor of all peace loving individuals and communities. Thanks to everyone who's willing to accept ONLY the truth. Stay blessed!
I've only seen or heard of one holy mallu...that's none other than Cindu The Hindu!!!!!
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I think that you need to understand a few things regarding this sensitive topic. Firstly, President Trump is NOT an anti-immigrant - from Day 1 of his administration, he has been pushing for an end to a lottery-based immigration system, and in favor of replacing it with a merit-based immigration system that will indirectly give preference to high-skilled Indian immigrants who have degrees/skills in the IT, engineering and medical fields. Thanks to unchecked lottery-based immigration laws espoused by fmr. Presidents Clinton and Obama, high-skilled Indian immigrants face green card wait times of up to 151 years, according to the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services. One hundred fifty-one years! Even the world's oldest human being didn't live to be that old! In addition, immigrants with extraordinary abilities (EB-1 visa) face wait times of nearly 6 years. Why should extremely talented individuals and business owners from India have to wait six entire years to get a green card? In the name of "diversity and inclusion"? Replacing the lottery-based immigration system with a merit-based system will decrease backlogs in the EB-1, EB-2, EB-3 and H1-B visas and provide equality of opportunity to ALL immigrants, regardless of their country of origin. The current immigration system also imposes quotas upon immigrants from India and China, simply because there are "too many" immigrants from these countries. My question to you, is why are you against the President who wants immigration to not be based upon race/ethnicity/country of origin, but instead, professional qualifications? The U.S. economy will grow faster with more high-skilled immigrants who come here LEGALLY (not by walking across a border), and American children will feel incentivized to study well, go to college and invest in an education, get a job and make money.
Secondly, a key concept behind any political entity's success is as follows: economic growth leads to social development - NEVER the other way around. Under the Trump administration, the U.S. GDP growth rate is around 3.5% per year, compared to roughly 1.5% under the Obama administration. The stock market is well and alive, and FYI, market corrections are a NORMAL part of any country's economy. Due to the December 2018 U.S. stock market correction, gasoline prices dropped, alongside stock prices, incentivizing people to buy more products, services, stocks, real estate, etc. at a lower rate. The influx in buying is currently ongoing, and resulting in the rebound of the stock market. This is how people become rich in the U.S. - deregulation of the economy, free markets, less restrictions and government "red tape," and lower corporate taxes. Lower corporate taxes, alongside a strong economy, incentivizes companies to pay their employees more and make their job positions more competitive, resulting in more job openings, lower unemployment rates, more high-skilled immigration, a higher high school and college graduation rate, higher wages, and a stronger economy. This is also why the U.S. economy added 312,000 jobs in December 2018, compared to the bleak prediction of 170,000 jobs made by liberal elitist economic "experts" who spend their entire day on CNN and MSNBC stoking fear and lies about Trump and Republicans into the lives of Americans.
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ReplyDeleteThirdly, I'd like to counter some claims you have made with the word "privilege" in your statement. Ma'am, you cannot fight racism with more racism. The solution to white supremacy in the U.S., and around the world, isn't giving special advantages to other minorities. And in case you're wondering, I am a proud Hindu Indian-American. You said "We have the privilege of being Christian." No, you don't. You don't have the privilege of being Christian, you have the privilege of living in a country that ALLOWS you to be Christian without any restrictions, and allows me to be a Hindu without any restrictions. ICYMI, the U.S. isn't some sort of international lounge where anyone and everyone can freely walk in whenever they want, do whatever they want in the country, and let whomever else they want in here. An American visa isn't a right, it is a privilege. There is a clear reason why every single year, millions of Indians line up outside of an American consulate somewhere in India hoping to get an American visa, and close to NO ONE in the U.S. voluntarily wants an Indian visa or permanent residency. Indians don't want to come to USA because USA has more Indians; they want to come to USA because USA was established on the principles of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Agreed, the U.S. has had a turbulent history, like any other country, but the difference between the U.S. and the rest of the developing world (i.e. majority of the continents of Africa and Asia) is that the U.S. has learned from its mistakes, and we as Americans are willing to change and adapt to meet the needs of our democratic society. The aforementioned statement is definitely NOT the case in the Arab World, where women non-Muslims are unfortunately and unjustly treated as sub-humans.
You also mentioned that Trump espouses white supremacy. Donald Trump has appointed Elaine Chao (Taiwanese-American) as the Secy. of Transportation. Ben Carson (African-American neurosurgeon) is the Secy. of Housing and Urban Development. Raj Shah (Indian-American) is the WH Deputy Director of Communications and Research. Ajit Pai (Indian-American) is the Chairman of the FCC. Seema Verma (Indian-American) is the Administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. Vishal Amin (Indian-American) is the Intellectual Property Enforcement Coordinator. Neomi Rao (Indian-American) is the Administrator of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs. Neil Chaterjee (Indian-American) is the Chairman of the FERC.
Overall, Donald Trump has been treated VERY unfairly by the American media, and is greatly misrepresented by the liberal elite. His liberal economic policies are very beneficial for the country, and are the direct reason why wages are going up, unemployment is going down, and economic growth is increasing (if Obama started the growth, as he claims to have done, then Hillary Clinton should've taken credit and won the 2016 Election). Immigrants will benefit if they come in LEGALLY, as they are supposed to, and so will the rest of American society. As the country has strong economic times, people's wages will increase, increasing their quality of lives and improving the condition of social issues that are Constitutionally out of the Federal government's reach. President Trump is keeping his promises that he made during the Election, and is trying to work with Speaker Pelosi and other Democrats to get things done. Please take the time to kindly respond to my thoughts. Thank you and God Bless!
Thank you for your very comments. It sounds like you are very irritated by my thoughts. It also sounds like you are a Trump enthusiast and I believe everyone is entitled to their thoughts and opinions, so I will agree to disagree with you. I do not have interest or time to respond to everyone of your points but a few of the points you brought up are relevant to the work I do within diversity and inclusion and I will address two of them:
ReplyDelete1. Christian Privilege: I am certainly privileged being born into a faith that is held by the majority of Americans. I don't have to look very hard to find a church to worship in on Sundays, all of the major religious holidays I observe are also observed by schools and government so I don't have to take off of work or change my schedule around in order to practice my religion. This is not the case for Hindu and Muslim individuals in this country. My religion is aligned with the white dominant culture's religion and it in some ways normalizes me when compared to an Indian person who is Hindu or Muslim. I perceive my Christian faith to be an unearned privileged that I have benefited from my entire life.
2. Just because Trump has appointed people of color doesn't mean that he is a fair minded, non-racist person. You seem to be a well read person, so I would encourage you to turn on or read the news- Trump is a blatant racist and I am not the only one who thinks that. He has a long track record of racism that is well documented- from his actions to his rhetoric.
Appointing diverse individuals is beneficial for business- as the business case for diversity and inclusion has been proven over and over through research. You pointing out all the Indian people who work for this administration to prove his innocence of espousing white supremacy or his innocence of being a racist is like someone saying that they can not be a racist because they are friends with people of color.
Again, thanks for taking the time to comment on my blog. Best wishes to you!
DJT loves immigrants, he married one.
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